"O Jerusalem, O America, O PCUSA, O..."
Something happened at the General Assembly meeting of the PCUSA (6/18-25, 2016 in Portland, Oregon) symbolizing a denomination irretrievably apostate under current management.
Wajidi Said, representing the Portland Muslim Community as part of the "first order of business" in the opening plenary session of the 222nd GA, prayed.
He began, "Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path - the path of all the prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. Peace be upon them all. Amen."
He continued, "In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful, let us praise the Lord. The creator of the universe, the most merciful, the most compassionate and the Lord of the universe who has created us and made us into nations and tribes, from male and females that we may know each other, not that we might despise each other, or may despise each other. Incline towards peace and justice and trust in God, for the Lord is one that hears and knows everything and the servants of God, the most compassionate, the most merciful, gracious are those who walk in the earth in humility and when bigots and hateful and Islamaphobes address them, they say peace. Peace be upon them and peace be upon Allah."
Help me, Jesus!
Can anyone interpret that dark glossolalia pour moi?
Does that prayer sadden/outrage you?
If not, you are ignorant, deceived, defiant, or part of the anti-Christ conspiracy to destroy...
If not, the Decalogue is quaint for you.
If not, you have joined the increasing majority of the ignorant, deceived, defiant, or conspiratorial who have re-imagined the answer to the first question of The Shorter Catechism of the early 17th century: "What is our chief end? Our chief end is to horrify God and annoy Him forever."
Allowing that prayer to help cover a meeting of people who still dare to call themselves Christians after so much enabled, accommodated, ingested, and barfed apostasy insults the holiness of God and Christendom according to over 2K years of Biblical, historical, traditional, confessional, constitutional, and common sense Christianity.
Allowing that prayer symbolizes a denomination irretrievably apostate under current management.
There was an apology.
It was weak.
Nobody who loves Jesus by the book bought it.
O.K., call me insensitive...rude...a bully...for bringing this up.
Is that how you handle apostasy?
Is that how you handle insults to God's holiness and the Savior of your soul?
All of that kinda distraction is a smokescreen for clergy in mainline denominations who didn't understand what it means to be a Biblical Christian when they were ordained...or lied because they wanted to be an ecclesiastical social worker in vestments...or changed their minds since ordination and don't have the integrity to quit.
If I am wrong - and don't bother to use any frame of reference other than Jesus, Holy Scripture, and common sense - please tell me so I may confess publicly and ask God's help to repent.
Well, at least on the corner of Lincoln and Main as mirrored in the remnant Church throughout America and the world, we're remaining Matthew 7:24-27 firm in a Joshua 24:14-15 kinda way.
A very strong woman of faith in Belvidere who I wish would join her husband and reinforce our life and ministry on the corner of Lincoln and Main told me that she may be feeling called to shatter the sound of silence about a very, very, very evil enterprise in our neck of the woods.
I warned her in a Matthew 10 and John 10 kinda way.
I also told her that if called against dark conspiracies, she will have to do it...or be unsettled for the rest of her life.
I told her that obedience is blessed...sooner or later...usually sooner than later...and definitely in the end.
See the Beatitudes of Matthew 5.
If you are saddened/outraged by the insults to God's holiness and Savior Jesus, you have choices.
You can shatter the sound of silence.
You can salt, shine, and leavenate.
You can look up, stand up, speak up, and act up for Jesus.
But as we look at what's becoming of our world, America and her churches, and everything else, I don't think ostriches are what He has in mind.
Blessings and Love!
Look up! Stand up! Speak up! Act up for Jesus!
Salt! Shine! Leavenate!
Look up! Stand up! Speak up! Act up for Jesus!
Salt! Shine! Leavenate!
The pcusa: a social club for 1.7 million people who couldn't get in a better one.
Hard to fathom, isn’t it. I’m thinking of the 12 times Israel drifted into rank paganism in the OT – the God’s hammer fell
I got this email from one of our elders. Hard to believe a Christian denomination would open up their bi-annual meeting with a prayer to allah!
I thought there was something in scripture about "have no other gods before me....."
Couldn’t agree more.
Can charges be brought against the organizers of said syncretism and apostasy? Seriously, could sessions band together and bring charges? The remnant doesn’t have to bend over, relax and take it quietly do we?
Interesting that the clerk of the general assembly offered a weak apology to “some” who were offended by the prayer, yet made no public apology to God for offending Him with the putrid stench of inexcusable blasphemy.
Bowing down to foreign gods? Guess Exodus 20 fell out of their Bibles
Another friend told me about this and I could hardly believe him. So sad. So very sad.
Your take resounds profoundly in my spirit... Amen!
But Dr. Kopp, they’re celebrating diversity! You must be one of those reactionary, narrow-minded bigots they keep telling us about.
“Irretrievably apostate” is correct. Every new utterance I hear coming out of there makes me ever more glad to not be numbered among them any more.
It raises an interesting question: If the path of least resistance to and embracement of the latest waves of thought is the preferred model for the direction of a church over a span of time, what is the point of its existence at all? By appearance they don’t seem to stand for anything. Their reversal of positions over time on important issues strikes one as schizophrenic. They still cast the appearance of reverence for the Bible, but their approach to it is a ’la carte, and full of caveats. A room-mate of mine in college, a middle-aged Mennonite from western Kansas, referred to a similar college fellowship at that school (Ecumenical Christian Ministries – sponsored by PCUSA, United Methodist, Brethren, UCC) eloquently and accurately as a “big ball of nothing”. To my astonishment about 15 years ago, they sought me out as a KSU alumnus – I don’t know where or how they got my name, and I will never know what they were after (maybe money). I fired off a letter to them explaining that I trusted Christ at Kansas State University, but it was the result of the efforts of a Navigator, and not the influence or efforts of ECM.
Is PCUSA still hemorrhaging members? I sincerely hope so. Is that a terrible sentiment? Maybe, but the church I profess membership in is not some terrestrial denomination, but the worldwide collection, spanning all time, of those who personally trust Christ and attempt to honor Him in their lives, seek Him in prayer and feed from His Word. There are a few hangers-on of this set who have remained in PCUSA, but I could not recommend such association to anyone, and especially not an inquirer or a young Christian. They have systematically neglected the things the church exists to do, and have veered crazily into directions for which they, as leaders and teachers, I am quite confident will come under strict judgment in times not yet seen.
You’re still there, and I know your reasons. While you still have a platform, warn them.
Just one more reason to leave.
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